4 turns left to the 1st number 3 turns right to the 2nd number 2 turns left to the third number right to stop or right to last number and turn handle If that does not work, try the same thing but reverse the left turns for right turns and the right turns for left. If you do not have the combination, forget getting it by a serial number, it aint gonna happen.
Check the local phone directory for locksmiths in your area for bids on opening. Roger Shoaf If you are not part of the solution, you are not dissolved in the solvent. 'saintory' wrote in message [email protected]. Tom 29/3/2007, 18:23 น. If you feel adventurous, you might try opening it yourself. Think of it as a hobby. Years ago at the library of Congress, I read a book called, 'The Art of Manipulation' by Clyde Lentz and Bill Kenton.
Recently, while surfing the web, I found a pdf file with the same information. The link is posted below. The book has been re-released. The link and copy are below.
(You don't have to buy it.the info is in the link above.) The Art of Safe Manipulation Open Combination Locks Without Drilling, Burning, or Forcing! This is the real deal and not a watered down version. The Art of Manipulation was written for locksmiths and safe professionals in order to improve their technique and knowledge of opening and servicing safes. This manual will familiarize you with why manipulation is possible and how it is accomplished. The Art of Manipulation illustrates the step-by-step procedures needed to manipulate lever type fence locks.
Additionally, it explains the methods used in the rotary fence gear driven, rotary fence spring loaded, straight in tail piece, bottom drop, and off-set gear driven type locks. Manipulation, also known as the 'Hear, Feel, and See' method, was discovered and developed by a small group of safe experts. After much deliberation, two of these experts decided to pass on their information to other safe professionals and published this invaluable book. Availability: Usually ships in 5-7 business days. $212.00 Tom [email protected] 30/3/2007, 6:40 น. Roger Shoaf 30/3/2007, 8:43 น.
Wrote in message news:[email protected]. On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 20:23:13 -0500, you wrote: If you feel adventurous, you might try opening it yourself. Think of it as a hobby. Go buy the drill rig. $700 to a grand 2. $1400 3 enjoy 4. SAFE STILL LOCKED.
Call the safe guy like you should of FIRST. -Shiva- In all fairness he didn't say anything about drilling it open and manipulating it doesn't require any of the tools you mention, only skill, and a lock that will cooperate. If you want to learn manipulation on old direct entry design is not a bad place to start. Steve 30/3/2007, 11:51 น.
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Q-I have an old safe made by the Herring-Hall-Marvin Safe Co. It was removed from a warehouse on Chicago`s South Side, where I`m told illegal whiskey was stored during Prohibition. How can I find out its value, and where can I sell it? A-The Herring-Hall-Marvin Co. Of Cincinnati and Chicago manufactured fine and fancy safes and was located in Chicago at 225 W.
Some safes made to order by the company were beautifully decorated with hand-painted pictures and designs. One covered with sailing ships was made more than 100 years ago for bakery mogul Henry Piper; it can be seen at That Steak Joynt restaurant, 1610 N. Wells St., which was once the Piper Bakery building. For more information on the safe, phone the restaurant`s owner, Billy Siegle, at 943-5091. Siegle says he`ll give you a free bottle of wine with your dinner if you bring in any piece of Piper Bakery memorabilia. Bob McCown buys old safes and vaults, as well as time clock combination locks for safes and vaults. You can reach him at Fink Safe & Lock Co., 2307 N.
Western Ave., Chicago, Ill. 60647 (phone 486-2030). Keith Mulford collects cutaway locks (salesmen`s samples with a section cut away to show how the internal mechanism worked), unique padlocks and old safes measuring less than 30 inches high. He can be contacted at 1017 N.
Gibbons, Arlington Heights, Ill. 60004 (phone 870-7372). To have an old safe appraised in the south suburbs, write to Harvey Sass, Elmer & Son Locksmiths, 3001 Chicago Rd., Steger, Ill. 60475 (phone 755-5273), enclosing a photo of the safe along with its height, width, depth, inside and outside measurements and any wording it has. Or write to the National Antique Safe Association, Box 110099, 16507 E.
13th Ave., Aurora, Colo. 80011, requesting a safe appraiser`s name and address near you. The value of an old safe depends on its type and rarity. Some years back, a reader of this column, Felix Gremmo, took my advice and contacted the Smithsonian Institution in Washington about a 5-foot-high and 4-foot-wide black ``cannonball`` safe he bought at a warehouse in 1974 for $45 and for which, nine years later, the Smithsonian paid him $2,500.
The four-ton round safe, made by the Corliss Mfg. Co., sits on a short steel pedestal and is painted black with fancy ornamentation and the date 1872 in ornate gold lettering.
The safe (which is most rare and unusual) is a steel ball made to rotate on an axis inside a larger steel shell and is fitted with three drawers (in which valuables were placed), a timer lock that must be cranked to set the time and two combination locks and two key locks. Warning: If you find an old safe, do not attempt to force it open. It may be booby-trapped, as many were, to discourage thieves. Q-Where can I find a record by Cary Grant entitled ``Did I Remember`` that he recorded around 1935? A-The World`s Biggest and Best Annual Antique Music Fair attracts collectors from all over the U.S.
And features 78 rpm records, cylinder records, phonographs, sheet music, vintage radios, jukeboxes and everything else relating to music memorabilia. It will be held from 9 a.m. Saturday and next Sunday at Seven Acres Antique Village & Museum, 8512 S.
Union Rd., Union (phone 815-923-2214). Admission is $4; children under 5 admitted free. For information or a search service to obtain the recording you want, write to Randy Donley at the museum. Q-Where can I get glass replacement parts, pieces and lids for my old set of Guardian Service Waterless Cookware? A-Ivan Bernstein deals in new and used pieces of Guardian cookware and is looking to buy Guardian Ware cookbooks.
Contact him at 6304 Green Meadow Pkwy., Baltimore, Md. 21209 (phone 301-358-2444).
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Various shapes and sizes of glass lids for Guardian cookware to fit dome cookers, casseroles, fryers, kettles and roasters in oval, triangular and round shapes can be ordered from the Painted Lady Antiques Catalogue, available for $2.75 postpaid from the Painted Lady Antiques Inc., 4712 W. Diversey Ave., Chicago, Ill. The catalogue also offers a multitude of hard-to-find parts, pieces, hardware, display domes, lighting fixtures and a variety of cleaning products and polishes, including the delightfully scented and fast-working Conrad`s Wood Youth Food Oil, which cleans, enhances, feeds and preserves all wood and iron items. A 16-ounce size is $14.70 postpaid, 32-ounce size is $23.45 postpaid, and 128-ounce size is $84.75 postpaid.
For more information, phone Paul Peshkin at the Painted Lady Antiques at 282-5116. Q-My grandfather, Herbert R. Smiley, manufactured druggists scales in Chicago from 1890 to 1895. Some had the name ``Smiley`` imprinted on them, while others were manufactured under the name of ``Druggists Scale Works.`` So far I`ve had no luck in trying to locate any of the scales he manufactured. Is there a source?
A-Write to the International Society of Antique Scale Collectors, Bob Stein, 111 N. Canal St., Suite 380, Chicago, Ill. Q-Are old wrenches worth anything? I have several types that belonged to my grandfather. A-Send for a copy of ``Antique Wrenches,`` by Larry Finch, available for $9.95 postpaid from L-W Books, Box 69, Gas City, Ind. 46933 (phone 317-674-6450).
For a dramatic rustic effect, try an arrangement of different wrenches on a stark white or bright red wall to perk up a dull den or ordinary office. Because of the volume of responses, when writing sources listed in this column, you must enclose an addressed, stamped envelope for replies. Anita Gold can be reached by writing Anita Gold, The Chicago Tribune, 435 N.
Michigan Ave., Chicago, Ill. However, the mail volume precludes a personal response.
Restoration of a Herring, Hall & Marvin Safe Restoration of a Herring, Hall & Marvin Safe Posted by on February 04, 2009 at 07:43:49: Recently I purchased a HH&M safe on ebay; I only know that it is pre war HH&M because it has solid cast acorns. I have a couple of questions for you safe experts that if answered would help me considerablyl. First, I did not have a full set of hinge acorns so I had some acorns made of solid brass and my plan was to brass plate the handle and dial. But I do not like the look of these shiny brass acorns and was wondering if I can nickel or chrome plate these solid brass acorns (and of course do the same with the dial and handle). Second, I have been told that HH&M serial numbers are located on the handle. On my handle, I can see a four digit number (8192) and a two digit number on top of this number (50).
I am wondering if my safe's serial number is 8192 or 508192. Lastly, I have read many posts on this fine forum about combinations and I am a bit confused by the function of the 'last turn'. The given (almost actual) combo of my safe is 91R-33L-60R- 7L. Many times I read that the last turn (after 7L) would be to to the right where the dial stops. On my safe when I turn to the final number (7) I usually hear a distinct click and when I turn the dial to the right, the dial stops at about 0 and I open the door.
However I can turn the handle and open the safe also when the dial is at number 7 and do not have to go to 0. Sometimes I do not hear the click at the last given number (7) but the door will still open.
However in this case, if I were to turn the dial to the right the dial will not stop at 0 and the door will not open at 0. The dialing is pretty smooth in general but the behavior of my lock does not seem to be consistent with my readings of your posts about the last turn. I am wondering if there is something wrong with my lock. It is a hand change Yale loick and soon I am going to (very carefully) take apart the wheels and degrease the components and wipe them down with a bit of Triflow. Based on the inconsistent last turn behavior of my lock, I am wondering if there is something else I should do while I have the lcok taken apart and have access to the rest of the components in the door. Thanks so much. Doug MacQueen CPS CMS 12:34:02 2/06/2009 (11).
Brooklyn 01:51:55 2/07/2009 (1). guy zani jr. 07:53:18 2/08/2009 (0). Brooklyn 01:51:41 2/07/2009 (8). Doug MacQueen CPS CMS 12:18:41 2/09/2009 (5). Brooklyn 04:38:44 2/10/2009 (4).
Brooklyn 07:21:32 2/10/2009 (3). Doug MacQueen CPS CMS 12:14:52 2/10/2009 (2). Brooklyn 08:24:35 2/12/2009 (1). Doug MacQueen CPS CMS 13:38:29 2/17/2009 (0). Ken Dunckel Safecracker Boxman 05:46:00 2/07/2009 (1). Brooklyn 20:09:48 2/07/2009 (0). john rea 17:44:12 2/05/2009 (0) Name - etc: E-Mail: Subject: Comments.
692 visitors Year Make/Brand Model VIN/Serial 1957 Herring Hall 231 255122 Condition Category Inventory ID See Description Security Equipment CP-18-0002.HERRING HALL MARVING SAFE. This auction is for (1) Herring-Hall safe, with single dial, single handle on wheels. Inside of the safe is open with several departments with set shelves. Reset Combination is available. Postal Markings will be removed due to Postal Regulations.
The 1957 HERRING HALL Safe was used in a Postal Facility and is being sold 'AS IS, WHERE IS'. Approximate weigh is 1400 lbs. Only item described herein is included in sale regardless of what else is pictured. Note: Successful bidder will be required to sign a HOLD HARMLESS agreement prior to taking possession (see attachment), Also successful bidder will be completely responsible for acquiring manpower/equipment for removal of equipment from location, as well as loading and transportation. Under no circumstances will the USPS assume responsibility for loading or shipping. For more information about this auction or to schedule an inspection please contact Richard Van Horn at 785-539-4608 or via email him at [email protected].
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IF YOU ARE THE WINNING BIDDER AND DEFAULT BY FAILING TO ADHERE TO THIS SELLERS TERMS AND CONDITIONS YOUR ACCOUNT WITH GOVDEALS WILL BE LOCKED Additional Info: Seller Information Seller Name: USPS - Denver Asset Accountability Service Center - E, CO Asset Contact: (Phone: 303-743-1381) Asset Location: 500 Leavenworth Manhattan, Kansas Inspection PLEASE NOTE: The bidder is encouraged to inspect and determine the condition of the property prior to bidding. For more information about this auction or to schedule an inspection please contact Richard Van Horn at 785-341-0436 or via email at Richard.A.VanHorn@usps. Payment methods for this item are Wire Transfer, PayPal, or credit cards (Visa, Mastercard, American Express., Discover) only.
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Successful bidders are responsible for loading and removal and any and all property awarded to them from the place where the property is located as indicated on the website and in the Buyer’s Certificate.Successful bidder will be COMPLETELY RESPONSIBLE for acquiring manpower/equipment for removal of items from this property, as well as loading and transportation. Under no circumstances will the USPS assume responsibility for loading or shipping. Special Instructions Guaranty Waiver: All property is offered for sale “AS IS, WHERE IS.” (Seller) makes no warranty, guaranty or representation of any kind, expressed or implied, as to the merchantability or fitness for any purpose of the property offered for sale. The Buyer is not entitled to any payment for loss of profit or any other money damages – special, direct, indirect, or consequential. Description Warranty: Seller warrants to the Buyer that the property offered for sale will conform to its description. Any claim for misdescription must be made prior to removal of the property. If Seller confirms that the property does not conform to the description, Seller will keep the property and a refund will be issued.
The liability of the seller shall not exceed the actual purchase price of the property. Please note that upon removal of the property, all sales are final. Most items offered for sale are used and may contain defects not immediately detectable. Bidders may inspect the property prior to bidding. Bidders must adhere to the inspection dates and times indicated in the item description. Questions and Answers Q: dimensions of the safe please.
Is it located on the 1st floor? (9/28/17 3:31 PM) A: Exterior measures - 30'W X 25'D X 70'H. Safe currently sits on the loading dock area up against a wall. Thank you for your interest (9/28/17 3:38 PM) Q: How much does the safe way? (10/5/17 1:24 PM) A: about 1400 lbs. Thank you for your interest (10/5/17 2:26 PM) Q: So it has an existing combination that works but, a reset combination is available for a cost?
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Sorry I'm confused. (10/6/17 5:37 PM) A: You will be provided with the safe combination if you are the successful bidder. (10/11/17 1:35 PM) Q: Since the safe is on wheels, can it be rolled outside the building on ground level? (10/10/17 9:57 PM) A: The safe is located on the loading dock. The dock is 3' above ground, but there is a dock lift that can be used for loading into a truck (10/11/17 1:34 PM).
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